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Subject: Is King Saul saved? I Samuel
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finnerej 12/5/2006 - 1:23:17
King Saul was annointed by God as a king of Israel coz d people wnted a king but later on the Lord had rejectd him coz of his disobedience (I Sam.16:1)pls. Feel free 2 gve your incites.Thanks *
finnerej 12/14/2006 - 8:42:58
Before i posted this question, i asked 2 pastors in our church. The other said King Saul was saved coz he was annointed by God,and the other said no coz he was annointed by people. I undrstand that this question is quite delicate coz its not directly mention in the bible whether he is saved or not.Whatever it is only God could know. *
6j0 12/22/2006 - 9:45:07
Finnerej,i dig into this topic.And ye there is scrips that say that Saul go to hell.Get your SWORD (bible) next to u.This is a VERY GOOD QUESTION. OK.Lets start look at the TRUTH here.And 
if u got some other questions feel FREE!!~ 9 PROOFS THAT THIS WAS NOT SAMUEL. 1. SAM.28:20~...Contd *
6j0 12/22/2006 - 9:55:04
1GOD would not answer Saul either by dreams and visions,Urim and Thummim,or by prophets,for HE had departed from him and had taken the HOLY SPIRIT away from him because of sin (v6,15-16;15:26;16:13-23; 1CHR10:13,14) ...Contd *
6j0 12/22/2006 - 10:04:04
If GOD had refused to answer him by legitimate means HE certainly would not answer contrary to SCRIPTURE (LK.16:26). If HE would not answer by the HOLY SPIRIT HE certainly would not answer by a demon spirit seeking to imitate Samuel,as is plain here (v7-19; 1CHR.10:13,14)...Contd *
6j0 12/22/2006 - 10:37:05
<2>It is clearly stated that Saul sought information from demons,not from GOD who refuse to answer him.He definitely wanted a witch that HAD A FAMILIAR SPIRIT,to inquire of her(v7).His request was for her to divine by the familiar spirit(v8) ...Contd *
6j0 12/22/2006 - 10:44:32
<3>The BIBLE plainly teaches that communication with the dead can be demon spirits imitating departed loved ones (v7-19 DT.18:11; 1CHR.10:13,14 ISA.8:19)...Contd *
6j0 12/22/2006 - 10:55:22
<4>It is commanded in scores of scriptures not to traffic with demons or seek communication with the dead (LK12:29) therefore,GOD would not allow Samuel to communicate thus through a witch.
...Contd *
6j0 12/22/2006 - 11:03:38
<5>The seeming appearance of Samuel to the witch was simply the familiar spirit imitating and impersonating him(1CHR.10:13,14).When it appeared that Samuel was speaking to Saul,it was the demon speaking; it would know about both Samuel and Saul and their past relationship....Contd *
6j0 12/22/2006 - 11:09:23
Such a demon could also make predictions (DT.13:1-3).Isaiah warned later that those who sought to the dead were deceived by familiar spirits(ISA.8:19)....Contd *
6j0 12/22/2006 - 11:32:19
<6>THE DEMON SPIRIT PRACTICALLY REVEALED HIS IDENTITY WHEN HE SAID THAT SAUL AND HIS SONS WOULD BE WITH HIM TOMORROW.SAUL WENT TO THE TORMENT COMPARTMENT OF SHEOL OR HADES,WHEREAS SAMUEL WENT TO THE COMFORT SIDE OF THE UNDERWORLD OF DEPARTED SPIRITS.See my topic WHERE ARE THE DEAD NOW....Contd *
6j0 12/22/2006 - 11:43:58
<7>There is no record of GOD seeking to intercept the communication of demons and men.Saul inquired of a demone and was answered by one.When GOD gives answers HIS messages come only through the HOLY SPIRIT in different ways,but NEVER through unlawful or unscriptural ways,as here....Contd *
6j0 12/22/2006 - 12:41:20
<8>It is stated in 1CHR.10:13,14 that Saul died for his previous sins and ALSO for sinning against the WORD of the LORD<wich forbade whitches) and traffic with demons,and for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit, TO INQUIRE OF IT> ...Contd *
6j0 12/22/2006 - 12:57:03
and inquired not of the LORD (on this occasion).Thus,it was from a familiar spirit,and not Samuel,that he obtained his information....Contd *
6j0 12/22/2006 - 1:14:43
<9>JESUS taught that it is impossible for the dead 
to communicate with living persons on earth,and ALL scriptures on the subject of the state of the dead,and on heaven and hell,completely confirm HIS teaching....Contd *
6j0 12/22/2006 - 1:24:38
There was an impassible gulf between the compartments so that they could not go from one place to the other,nor go back to the earth (LK.16:26-31).The only case of any person leaving his place of confinement between death and resurrection is the case of Moses whom GOD brought up for a purpose...Contd *
6j0 12/22/2006 - 1:36:43
,on the mount of transfiguration(MT.17:1-8).WE MUST BEAR IN MIND THOUGH,THAT THIS WAS AN ACT OF GOD AND NOT A DEMONIZED WITCH OR WIZARD.HENCE,WE CONCLUDE THAT 1 SAM.28:7-19 IS THE RECORD OF A DEMON IMPERSONATION!AMEN! AND AMEN! If there is ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ask. *
finnerej 12/22/2006 - 8:38:20
Thank u very much 6jo,it was clear and vivid for me now u really removed the thorns frm my neck.God bless u *
andyman0 23.01.08 - 10:25pm
Wow.... This was a hectic post. 1st time i read it. Never Realy thought of the Samuel incident comin back from the death... Wow. Bring alot of question's but i'm definately checkin it out too... Good point 6jo... *
4god 1.04.08 - 06:48pm
Its imposible to talk or hear or c the dead. Its a bible fact. Read the topic: CAN WE C/HEAR/TALK 2 THE DEATH. It will give u more info. *
4god 3.04.08 - 05:15am
The fact is that Samuel told Saul that tomorow u will be where I AM. Where did Saul go? He go to hell. This proof that it was not Samuel, because Samuel is in paradise. *
6j0 4.06.11 - 11:09am
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